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	<title>Comments for The Gown - student newspaper at Queen&#039;s University Belfast.</title>
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		<title>Comment on COMMENT: Exploiting indebted student drivers? by Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/comment-exploiting-indebted-student-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1385</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buses are fine if you have nowhere to be at any particular time and don&#039;t care if you have to stand in the cold for half an hour because its late. Probably why it works so well for school kids.

For grown up people in real life that don&#039;t have the time to &#039;get an earlier bus&#039; personal transport is the only option. Public transport cannot be relied upon in the city nevermind rural areas surrounding Belfast.

I&#039;m amazed how narrow minded people can be about public transport, sure it&#039;s fine for you when you have a bus outside your door every 5 minutes. There are many areas in the city that mean walking just to get to a bus stop. Areas outside Belfast may only have a bus every hour if even that and even then its very possible your nearest bus stop is over five miles away.

To the point of the lack of parking (which you all seem to have avoided) why do Queens not provide parking for its students? My local chinese, chip shop, indian, off license, supermarket and corner shop ALL provide parking for their customers, I can take my car there anytime and know I&#039;ll get parked.

Does Queens even care? once you&#039;ve paid your fees you&#039;re just a number. Queens is very quickly developing a reputation for not caring about its students, inside or outside of the lecture hall.

You people saying toget the bus, do you always eat what the government puts in your bowl? Grow a spine, sit up, question the system, maybe even develop your own opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buses are fine if you have nowhere to be at any particular time and don&#8217;t care if you have to stand in the cold for half an hour because its late. Probably why it works so well for school kids.</p>
<p>For grown up people in real life that don&#8217;t have the time to &#8216;get an earlier bus&#8217; personal transport is the only option. Public transport cannot be relied upon in the city nevermind rural areas surrounding Belfast.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m amazed how narrow minded people can be about public transport, sure it&#8217;s fine for you when you have a bus outside your door every 5 minutes. There are many areas in the city that mean walking just to get to a bus stop. Areas outside Belfast may only have a bus every hour if even that and even then its very possible your nearest bus stop is over five miles away.</p>
<p>To the point of the lack of parking (which you all seem to have avoided) why do Queens not provide parking for its students? My local chinese, chip shop, indian, off license, supermarket and corner shop ALL provide parking for their customers, I can take my car there anytime and know I&#8217;ll get parked.</p>
<p>Does Queens even care? once you&#8217;ve paid your fees you&#8217;re just a number. Queens is very quickly developing a reputation for not caring about its students, inside or outside of the lecture hall.</p>
<p>You people saying toget the bus, do you always eat what the government puts in your bowl? Grow a spine, sit up, question the system, maybe even develop your own opinion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: Chuckle Bros back Bot in RAG-GAA event clash by JJ</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/chuckle-bros-back-bot-in-rag-gaa-event-clash/comment-page-1/#comment-1384</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I wonder, is why are the GAA holding a &quot;pre-paddy&#039;s&quot; drink-fest. It&#039;s Saint Patrick , not Paddy ye heathens. It is blatently promoting getting drunk on Saint Patricks Day, did students not get bad enough press last year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I wonder, is why are the GAA holding a &#8220;pre-paddy&#8217;s&#8221; drink-fest. It&#8217;s Saint Patrick , not Paddy ye heathens. It is blatently promoting getting drunk on Saint Patricks Day, did students not get bad enough press last year?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Gown outdoors by Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/the-gown-outdoors/comment-page-1/#comment-1380</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Gown outdoors by jon</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/the-gown-outdoors/comment-page-1/#comment-1378</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great illustration!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on SPORT: Luck of the euro draw for Ireland? by jas</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/sport-luck-of-the-euro-draw-for-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-1377</link>
		<dc:creator>jas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yet again NI have received another unlucky table compared to our southern neighbours. however,there&#039;s no doubt in NI&#039;s ability against the bigger teams so maybe thats a good omen. C&#039;mon norn iron!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yet again NI have received another unlucky table compared to our southern neighbours. however,there&#8217;s no doubt in NI&#8217;s ability against the bigger teams so maybe thats a good omen. C&#8217;mon norn iron!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Gown outdoors by PETER FROG</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/the-gown-outdoors/comment-page-1/#comment-1376</link>
		<dc:creator>PETER FROG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRILLIANT!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: Chuckle Bros back Bot in RAG-GAA event clash by jas</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/chuckle-bros-back-bot-in-rag-gaa-event-clash/comment-page-1/#comment-1375</link>
		<dc:creator>jas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul lilly needs to understand tht there&#039;s more to life than just GAA and acting the big lad around campus. He does more to ruin the reputation of vp&#039;s than increase it at a time when all respect for them had gone out the window due to the anitcs of susan kearney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul lilly needs to understand tht there&#8217;s more to life than just GAA and acting the big lad around campus. He does more to ruin the reputation of vp&#8217;s than increase it at a time when all respect for them had gone out the window due to the anitcs of susan kearney.</p>
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		<title>Comment on COMMENT: Exploiting indebted student drivers? by Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/comment-exploiting-indebted-student-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1373</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember, as a student every penny must count! Buses are only an option for Students outside of Belfast if the Bus Timetable fits in with your own personal timetable, and even then there&#039;s always the risk of the bus being early or late and missing class. It is also probably cheaper for Students who live in, for example, Lisburn to drive into Belfast every day than use the train as the prices at the moment are not great for a service that can sometimes be unreliable. Sometimes, it is much less stress and hassle free to simply take your car! And the lack of proper parking facilities in the QUB area simply brings the stress flooding back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, as a student every penny must count! Buses are only an option for Students outside of Belfast if the Bus Timetable fits in with your own personal timetable, and even then there&#8217;s always the risk of the bus being early or late and missing class. It is also probably cheaper for Students who live in, for example, Lisburn to drive into Belfast every day than use the train as the prices at the moment are not great for a service that can sometimes be unreliable. Sometimes, it is much less stress and hassle free to simply take your car! And the lack of proper parking facilities in the QUB area simply brings the stress flooding back!</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: GAA-law team engage in SU election vote fraud by The Sage</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/05/news-gaa-law-team-engage-in-su-election-vote-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-1370</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to say I was actually approached in this way myself by a senior member of the Law/GAA axis. My disgust at being approached in this way was only mirrored by the shock I felt that this candidate had time in his busy schedule to actually text me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to say I was actually approached in this way myself by a senior member of the Law/GAA axis. My disgust at being approached in this way was only mirrored by the shock I felt that this candidate had time in his busy schedule to actually text me</p>
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		<title>Comment on FEATURE: What do school leavers think of university? by Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/04/feature-what-do-school-leavers-think-of-university/comment-page-1/#comment-1368</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article, however. Does it annoy anyone that some students take it as an given right that they will get into a university like Queen&#039;s, rather than they having a high possibility of doing so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article, however. Does it annoy anyone that some students take it as an given right that they will get into a university like Queen&#8217;s, rather than they having a high possibility of doing so?</p>
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		<title>Comment on COMMENT: Exploiting indebted student drivers? by Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/comment-exploiting-indebted-student-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1367</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Sarah, there is a certain safety and security with having a car. If i take the bus into queens that means i have to walk back into the city centre to get the bus back, and at night this is not always the safest option. 
After working so hard to get into uni you would think the univserity would be able to provide safe and secure parking for their students. Also it would be stupid for anyone that has paid for their car, car insurance and tax just to waste their money public transport, which is not always reliable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Sarah, there is a certain safety and security with having a car. If i take the bus into queens that means i have to walk back into the city centre to get the bus back, and at night this is not always the safest option.<br />
After working so hard to get into uni you would think the univserity would be able to provide safe and secure parking for their students. Also it would be stupid for anyone that has paid for their car, car insurance and tax just to waste their money public transport, which is not always reliable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on COMMENT: Exploiting indebted student drivers? by Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/comment-exploiting-indebted-student-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1366</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To enable me to pay bills etc i have to work part time as well as attending uni, as many students have to do, and need to be there straight after uni so public transport is really not an option as i would not be able to bring all my uni stuff and my work stuff on a bus and get there on time. 

There are great bus and train routes to Queen&#039;s and I have no problem getting the bus when i don&#039;t have work but i am still paying insurance, tax etc for a car - i&#039;d like to get my moneys worth. I have 4 lectures in a row on some days so that eliminates my ability to park and pay for an hour. I would still get a ticket. 

I don&#039;t feel that having a car park would encourage more students to drive, rather it would encourage students that already have to drive to car share and not have to deal with the prospect of getting up at 6am to get a space for 7am when lectures don&#039;t start until 11am. If Queen&#039;s followed the University of Ulster&#039;s example and paid £80 for a year parking and brought 3 friends - £20 each. Much better option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To enable me to pay bills etc i have to work part time as well as attending uni, as many students have to do, and need to be there straight after uni so public transport is really not an option as i would not be able to bring all my uni stuff and my work stuff on a bus and get there on time. </p>
<p>There are great bus and train routes to Queen&#8217;s and I have no problem getting the bus when i don&#8217;t have work but i am still paying insurance, tax etc for a car &#8211; i&#8217;d like to get my moneys worth. I have 4 lectures in a row on some days so that eliminates my ability to park and pay for an hour. I would still get a ticket. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel that having a car park would encourage more students to drive, rather it would encourage students that already have to drive to car share and not have to deal with the prospect of getting up at 6am to get a space for 7am when lectures don&#8217;t start until 11am. If Queen&#8217;s followed the University of Ulster&#8217;s example and paid £80 for a year parking and brought 3 friends &#8211; £20 each. Much better option.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FEATURE: How easy is it for a QUB student to get cocaine? by Med Student</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/06/feature-how-easy-is-it-for-a-qub-student-to-get-cocaine/comment-page-1/#comment-1364</link>
		<dc:creator>Med Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the government has been pretty terrible at communicating a coherent drugs message because it has consistently ignored the advice of experts.

Cocaine is very dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the government has been pretty terrible at communicating a coherent drugs message because it has consistently ignored the advice of experts.</p>
<p>Cocaine is very dangerous.</p>
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		<title>Comment on COMMENT: Exploiting indebted student drivers? by Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/comment-exploiting-indebted-student-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1360</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever considered paying and displaying to avoid a £30 parking ticket? At £1 an hour surely it&#039;s the preferable option. As someone who drives to Queen&#039;s most days, I can say I&#039;ve always been able to find a pay and display space in the university area with no problems. Yes, it&#039;s not free, but driving is a choice- if I found parking too much hassle, I would just get the bus and get on with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever considered paying and displaying to avoid a £30 parking ticket? At £1 an hour surely it&#8217;s the preferable option. As someone who drives to Queen&#8217;s most days, I can say I&#8217;ve always been able to find a pay and display space in the university area with no problems. Yes, it&#8217;s not free, but driving is a choice- if I found parking too much hassle, I would just get the bus and get on with it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: Chuckle Bros back Bot in RAG-GAA event clash by KG</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/chuckle-bros-back-bot-in-rag-gaa-event-clash/comment-page-1/#comment-1358</link>
		<dc:creator>KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely student officers should use what influence they have to try to promote the SU???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely student officers should use what influence they have to try to promote the SU???</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Gown outdoors by Weston O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/the-gown-outdoors/comment-page-1/#comment-1353</link>
		<dc:creator>Weston O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worried about deers grazing in your office space?

Why not equip yourself with this 32oz bottle of wolf urine?

http://www.amazon.com/Wolf-Urine-Lure-32-oz/dp/B0006IGZSM/ref=pd_sbs_indust_3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worried about deers grazing in your office space?</p>
<p>Why not equip yourself with this 32oz bottle of wolf urine?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Wolf-Urine-Lure-32-oz/dp/B0006IGZSM/ref=pd_sbs_indust_3" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Wolf-Urine-Lure-32-oz/dp/B0006IGZSM/ref=pd_sbs_indust_3</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: Chuckle Bros back Bot in RAG-GAA event clash by CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/chuckle-bros-back-bot-in-rag-gaa-event-clash/comment-page-1/#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There isn&#039;t any day off classes tomorrow anyway, an email was sent round arch. and geog students saying classes are as normal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There isn&#8217;t any day off classes tomorrow anyway, an email was sent round arch. and geog students saying classes are as normal?</p>
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		<title>Comment on COMMENT: Exploiting indebted student drivers? by yyyyyyyyy</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/comment-exploiting-indebted-student-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1351</link>
		<dc:creator>yyyyyyyyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if people from up west do want to drive...

there are the park and ride facilities in Sprucefield.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if people from up west do want to drive&#8230;</p>
<p>there are the park and ride facilities in Sprucefield.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by Riggs</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1349</link>
		<dc:creator>Riggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair to all, me and Niall Bole actually hada good chat and laugh about this thread in the Science Library earlier so others needa lighten up. As i said in every post, we wer beat and has been accepted. Just had an issue with the image. And i duno any1 that makes up a nickname 4 themselves, that 1 was gave 2 me a few years ago and it stuck. Neways, sun is shining, so less of us should be sitting complaining to eachother on this. G Lack!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to all, me and Niall Bole actually hada good chat and laugh about this thread in the Science Library earlier so others needa lighten up. As i said in every post, we wer beat and has been accepted. Just had an issue with the image. And i duno any1 that makes up a nickname 4 themselves, that 1 was gave 2 me a few years ago and it stuck. Neways, sun is shining, so less of us should be sitting complaining to eachother on this. G Lack!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: Chuckle Bros back Bot in RAG-GAA event clash by Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/chuckle-bros-back-bot-in-rag-gaa-event-clash/comment-page-1/#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bot? RAG? I&#039;m going nowhere!</description>
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: Chuckle Bros back Bot in RAG-GAA event clash by Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/chuckle-bros-back-bot-in-rag-gaa-event-clash/comment-page-1/#comment-1347</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, Paul this story isn&#039;t that biased. It&#039;s a fact that yesterday your Facebook status was advertising the Bot as the venue for this GAA event and have been for several weeks. 

As an officer of the Union you really should have encouraged the organisers of the event to hold it in the Union, especially since you have known for many months about the decrease in income of the SU bars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, Paul this story isn&#8217;t that biased. It&#8217;s a fact that yesterday your Facebook status was advertising the Bot as the venue for this GAA event and have been for several weeks. </p>
<p>As an officer of the Union you really should have encouraged the organisers of the event to hold it in the Union, especially since you have known for many months about the decrease in income of the SU bars.</p>
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		<title>Comment on COMMENT: Exploiting indebted student drivers? by Bus babe</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/comment-exploiting-indebted-student-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator>Bus babe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree with Ryan. I&#039;ve never really sympathised/empathised with students complaining about car parking around the student areas to be honest. Get the bus or the train.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree with Ryan. I&#8217;ve never really sympathised/empathised with students complaining about car parking around the student areas to be honest. Get the bus or the train.</p>
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		<title>Comment on COMMENT: Exploiting indebted student drivers? by Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/comment-exploiting-indebted-student-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of being flamed, have you considered public transport? If you live in Belfast (or just outside, ie, Carryduff) the buses are a real option. There&#039;s even one that stops just outside the front of the SU/Lanyon Building! Yes, you have to pay to get the bus, but when you take into account the student discount offered on one side, and petrol and insurance costs on the other, to me it does seem cheaper.

If you&#039;re coming from further afield, say Lisburn, Bangor, Portadown, etc. then there is always the train to Botanic.

To be honest, the only time I could think of a student needing a car for commuting to University is if they are from somewhere over an hours drive away like Downpatrick, Newry, Omagh, etc. and in that case, it&#039;d probably be cheaper to be renting a house in the area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of being flamed, have you considered public transport? If you live in Belfast (or just outside, ie, Carryduff) the buses are a real option. There&#8217;s even one that stops just outside the front of the SU/Lanyon Building! Yes, you have to pay to get the bus, but when you take into account the student discount offered on one side, and petrol and insurance costs on the other, to me it does seem cheaper.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re coming from further afield, say Lisburn, Bangor, Portadown, etc. then there is always the train to Botanic.</p>
<p>To be honest, the only time I could think of a student needing a car for commuting to University is if they are from somewhere over an hours drive away like Downpatrick, Newry, Omagh, etc. and in that case, it&#8217;d probably be cheaper to be renting a house in the area.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: Chuckle Bros back Bot in RAG-GAA event clash by Paul Lilly</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/chuckle-bros-back-bot-in-rag-gaa-event-clash/comment-page-1/#comment-1343</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another biased story Brendan I am disappointed, never mind the fact the chuckle brothers were two of the only sabs that helped lead on the first RAG pub crawl,</description>
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: Chuckle Bros back Bot in RAG-GAA event clash by Orlagh</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/chuckle-bros-back-bot-in-rag-gaa-event-clash/comment-page-1/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>Orlagh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bad boys lilly and bazza. see yous in the bot
xxxx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bad boys lilly and bazza. see yous in the bot<br />
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: Chuckle Bros back Bot in RAG-GAA event clash by Donal Cusack</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/chuckle-bros-back-bot-in-rag-gaa-event-clash/comment-page-1/#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator>Donal Cusack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I&#039;m aware the night out has been booked in the Bot since before Christmas when all GAA fixtures were consulted and this was an appropriate gap in the fixture schedule in which to facilitate a night out. There was no mention of RAG week at that time and whilst it is unfortunate that both events are clashing, people will just have to grin and bear it. 

Anyway, if RAG are running a &#039;pub crawl&#039; surely they&#039;re not spending all night in the Union and consequently, any sabbatical officer that supports it is affecting Union income. Students will therefore only arrive at the Union when they&#039;re already drunk and completely incapacitated to spend any more money. 

Double standards if you ask me!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I&#8217;m aware the night out has been booked in the Bot since before Christmas when all GAA fixtures were consulted and this was an appropriate gap in the fixture schedule in which to facilitate a night out. There was no mention of RAG week at that time and whilst it is unfortunate that both events are clashing, people will just have to grin and bear it. </p>
<p>Anyway, if RAG are running a &#8216;pub crawl&#8217; surely they&#8217;re not spending all night in the Union and consequently, any sabbatical officer that supports it is affecting Union income. Students will therefore only arrive at the Union when they&#8217;re already drunk and completely incapacitated to spend any more money. </p>
<p>Double standards if you ask me!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by SU Insider</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>SU Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massive sour grapes here. Give over GAAheads. You lost. Get over it.</description>
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: Chuckle Bros back Bot in RAG-GAA event clash by Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/chuckle-bros-back-bot-in-rag-gaa-event-clash/comment-page-1/#comment-1338</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is yet another example of the &#039;Executive&#039; double standards and plain ignorance. If you&#039;re placed in a position of power and *ahem* respect within organisation A, you shouldn&#039;t be able to feck off and support organisation B over A. I have no problem with people socialising all across the city, but when it comes to major events, such as RAG, the full support of the Executive should fall behind those events.

Son, I am disappoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is yet another example of the &#8216;Executive&#8217; double standards and plain ignorance. If you&#8217;re placed in a position of power and *ahem* respect within organisation A, you shouldn&#8217;t be able to feck off and support organisation B over A. I have no problem with people socialising all across the city, but when it comes to major events, such as RAG, the full support of the Executive should fall behind those events.</p>
<p>Son, I am disappoint.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LETTER: Re Holylands by COMMENT FROM THE LETTER WRITER</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/06/letter-re-holylands/comment-page-1/#comment-1336</link>
		<dc:creator>COMMENT FROM THE LETTER WRITER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment below was emailed to The Gown from the writer of the above letter, David Farrell.

&quot;I am a Life Long Learner (mature student), studying my 10th year of a p/t degree course (at my own expense). unfortunatly, the educational establishment that I study in (QUB), is raping the community that lays in it&#039;s very large shadow. This is no longer the balanced community that I have brought my family and grandchildren up to respect.
 
QUB are more or less a glorifed estate agent*, rather than a premier &#039;Russell Group&#039;, university, looking to attract philanthropic and sponsor/supporter monies, on top of grants and core DEL funding (*£50m+ library built in the Holyland, to massive objection(s), especially from the Rugby Road Residents Association. Also see the plans for QUB to commandeer College Park East (Road), for additional private QUB parking and more buildings. I suspect that this car park will eventually be converted to even more real estate. Look at a map of QUB properties - they stretch from Stockman&#039;s lane area, to Stranmillis, St. Mary&#039;s college and now down to QBIS at Queen&#039;s Island (one of the first clients to take up a business on this site. To manage this amount of mainly Victorian terraced properties must be a huge drain on finances (which could be used to keep fees manageable! etc.).

A more intelligent solution could be:-
Keep the Lanyon and Lynn buildings as a centre of excellence or administration, as well as the tourist factor.
QUB should be in a modern purpose built, hi-tech campus, big enough to expand into the future and designed as an easily manageable student village (with plenty of &#039;Halls of residence&#039; or &#039;Purpose built, secure student accomodation (many companies, here and around the world, see this model as a long term secure investment for pension funds), It makes sense to have a vibrant student village away from residential areas and close to the Arts Quarter of Belfast.

I have previously suggested to QUB, UUJ, PSNI, Community Groups and BCC that QUB make this move (and the sooner the better) to join their buisness hub on Queen&#039;s Island.
The jaws of the jaded traditionalist dinosaurs creaked to the floor.

Not only would any idea similar to this be practicle but it would ease traffic conjestion in the city, as Translink would not have to run busses from QUB to Jordanstown (and back) all day long. For some reason the majority of UUJ and Belfast Met., students insist on living where the QUB students are???

Lambs to the slaughter.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment below was emailed to The Gown from the writer of the above letter, David Farrell.</p>
<p>&#8220;I am a Life Long Learner (mature student), studying my 10th year of a p/t degree course (at my own expense). unfortunatly, the educational establishment that I study in (QUB), is raping the community that lays in it&#8217;s very large shadow. This is no longer the balanced community that I have brought my family and grandchildren up to respect.</p>
<p>QUB are more or less a glorifed estate agent*, rather than a premier &#8216;Russell Group&#8217;, university, looking to attract philanthropic and sponsor/supporter monies, on top of grants and core DEL funding (*£50m+ library built in the Holyland, to massive objection(s), especially from the Rugby Road Residents Association. Also see the plans for QUB to commandeer College Park East (Road), for additional private QUB parking and more buildings. I suspect that this car park will eventually be converted to even more real estate. Look at a map of QUB properties &#8211; they stretch from Stockman&#8217;s lane area, to Stranmillis, St. Mary&#8217;s college and now down to QBIS at Queen&#8217;s Island (one of the first clients to take up a business on this site. To manage this amount of mainly Victorian terraced properties must be a huge drain on finances (which could be used to keep fees manageable! etc.).</p>
<p>A more intelligent solution could be:-<br />
Keep the Lanyon and Lynn buildings as a centre of excellence or administration, as well as the tourist factor.<br />
QUB should be in a modern purpose built, hi-tech campus, big enough to expand into the future and designed as an easily manageable student village (with plenty of &#8216;Halls of residence&#8217; or &#8216;Purpose built, secure student accomodation (many companies, here and around the world, see this model as a long term secure investment for pension funds), It makes sense to have a vibrant student village away from residential areas and close to the Arts Quarter of Belfast.</p>
<p>I have previously suggested to QUB, UUJ, PSNI, Community Groups and BCC that QUB make this move (and the sooner the better) to join their buisness hub on Queen&#8217;s Island.<br />
The jaws of the jaded traditionalist dinosaurs creaked to the floor.</p>
<p>Not only would any idea similar to this be practicle but it would ease traffic conjestion in the city, as Translink would not have to run busses from QUB to Jordanstown (and back) all day long. For some reason the majority of UUJ and Belfast Met., students insist on living where the QUB students are???</p>
<p>Lambs to the slaughter.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by Scot Free</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1335</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going by Riggs&#039; (what sort of person gives themselves a crap nickname?!) couple comments on this thread I believe the Union is much better off without him!

*Cry, cry, GAA, cry, cry, GAA, cry...*

Well done Mr Boles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going by Riggs&#8217; (what sort of person gives themselves a crap nickname?!) couple comments on this thread I believe the Union is much better off without him!</p>
<p>*Cry, cry, GAA, cry, cry, GAA, cry&#8230;*</p>
<p>Well done Mr Boles</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Gown outdoors by hilarious</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/the-gown-outdoors/comment-page-1/#comment-1333</link>
		<dc:creator>hilarious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO! Gownies never say die eh?</description>
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		<title>Comment on COLUMN: Clarissa Long explains it all by impressed</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/column-clarissa-long-explains-it-all/comment-page-1/#comment-1332</link>
		<dc:creator>impressed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How refreshing to see a feature like this about student experiences, that has nothing whatsoever to do with petty goings-on in the Union!

Lovely piece, well-done Clarissa :D. Hope there are more to come! I have several friends here who are on exchange from the US, i&#039;m sure it&#039;s great for them to see someone vocalising their experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How refreshing to see a feature like this about student experiences, that has nothing whatsoever to do with petty goings-on in the Union!</p>
<p>Lovely piece, well-done Clarissa <img src='http://www.thegown.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> . Hope there are more to come! I have several friends here who are on exchange from the US, i&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s great for them to see someone vocalising their experiences.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEWS: GAA-law team engage in SU election vote fraud by John</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/05/news-gaa-law-team-engage-in-su-election-vote-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-1331</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reader, you are a hero.

I just thought I&#039;d mention that there were students canvassing in the Hatfield, walking around with a laptop getting people to vote. I saw a guy asking them which candidates were Catholic and just voting for them. The election results were a triumph in the face of these types of people who just vote blindly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reader, you are a hero.</p>
<p>I just thought I&#8217;d mention that there were students canvassing in the Hatfield, walking around with a laptop getting people to vote. I saw a guy asking them which candidates were Catholic and just voting for them. The election results were a triumph in the face of these types of people who just vote blindly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LETTER: Re Holylands by John</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/06/letter-re-holylands/comment-page-1/#comment-1330</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And haul on &quot;let&#039;s play nice&quot; - fights?? Never have I seen a fight in the Holylands. Just another misinterpretation of the Holylands by someone who understands very little of what they speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And haul on &#8220;let&#8217;s play nice&#8221; &#8211; fights?? Never have I seen a fight in the Holylands. Just another misinterpretation of the Holylands by someone who understands very little of what they speak.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LETTER: Re Holylands by John</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/06/letter-re-holylands/comment-page-1/#comment-1329</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the heart of the Holylands and after the first day of sunshine to come back and see people on the street chattin and having a laugh was great. there was a real buzz about the place. The fact that people were trying to sunbathe and have a bbq when it was about 10 degrees was hilarious.

What kind of person would want to put a stop to all that with wardens and the like telling people off all day. 90% of people in the Holylands love the craic when it is sunny. Why are we never listened to?

And as for the rubbish there is frig-all more than there normally is.

And as for all the anti-social behaviour such as shouting (a horrible thing, I know)there is always frig-all of that. A lot of the time the Holylands are quite boring compared to all of the myths and legends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the heart of the Holylands and after the first day of sunshine to come back and see people on the street chattin and having a laugh was great. there was a real buzz about the place. The fact that people were trying to sunbathe and have a bbq when it was about 10 degrees was hilarious.</p>
<p>What kind of person would want to put a stop to all that with wardens and the like telling people off all day. 90% of people in the Holylands love the craic when it is sunny. Why are we never listened to?</p>
<p>And as for the rubbish there is frig-all more than there normally is.</p>
<p>And as for all the anti-social behaviour such as shouting (a horrible thing, I know)there is always frig-all of that. A lot of the time the Holylands are quite boring compared to all of the myths and legends.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by John</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1328</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just a bit of craic like. The fella did well to win. Lighten up people.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Gown outdoors by John</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/09/the-gown-outdoors/comment-page-1/#comment-1327</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legends :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legends <img src='http://www.thegown.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by SU Insider</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1324</link>
		<dc:creator>SU Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CLARIFICATION:

The VPCS role no longer decides club and soc budgets. This is now decided by the clubs and socs coordinator. So the GAA have nothing to fear - the favouritism that has been displayed to them for 14 years will not be reversed on them in the coming year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CLARIFICATION:</p>
<p>The VPCS role no longer decides club and soc budgets. This is now decided by the clubs and socs coordinator. So the GAA have nothing to fear &#8211; the favouritism that has been displayed to them for 14 years will not be reversed on them in the coming year.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by Riggs</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>Riggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here Firstly im all for the satire - if any of youse knew me you wud kno i am 1 of the most scarcastic, piss taking, slagging people around and like this pic I only do it for the laugh. Difference is I like many others do it in small groups and not publicity across the universitys media. And yes I can see that sure it depicts Nialls victory over what was deemed a GAA held position, (Why arent the other 6 popsitions victories depicted?) but we dont actually sit around in a big GAA meeting every year in the hatfield and decide who to put forward as the GAA candidate, cos if we did me and Niamh wudnt have ran for the same position and split the supposidly large GAA vote. I met her for the 1st time on the nominations day 2 weeks ago, 4 years into my time at Queens. All I said is that it is a poster which could be seen to people that the new VPCS is anti GAA. Which by his commemnts I doubt he is bt if people start printing this picture out or using it as a profile pic on facebook, tensions may rise and confidence drop within GAA members. He ran a good campaign and fair play 4 winning. And I hope he puts his full effort into the plans he has. On the dragon being slain, although me and Niamh both come from GAA backgrounds, neither of us had big GAA issues in our manifestos or plans. We were going for this position to help all clubs and societies. She has played for the QUB Soccer and netball teams in the past, and yes we both concentrate on GAA teams now, like all students who have full time courses and part time jobs, theres only so much you can do in your spare time. I doubt with Niall Boles duties in the DragonSlayers and his part time Job in the Union, that he wouldnt have the time to train 4 times a week for a GAA team. EVERYONES DIFFERENT. Thats what this position is all about, giving some1 the full time job to deal with all clubs. To Niall Bole, this isnt the place where you havta prove what you are going to do, you dont take up office til July, so dont be dragged ito discussions on what you plan to do. On the issue of funding and organisation, I dont think any of us fear that the GAA would have a reduction in funding as all the GAA teams grew in size last year so wouldnt be reasonable, and on the comment of bringing other clubs up to the same level as the GAA, well that will be down to each clubs members and not just the New VPCS. The GAA within QUB is the largest club and one of the best run because it it the most popoular club and 1 of the best supported. Simples</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here Firstly im all for the satire &#8211; if any of youse knew me you wud kno i am 1 of the most scarcastic, piss taking, slagging people around and like this pic I only do it for the laugh. Difference is I like many others do it in small groups and not publicity across the universitys media. And yes I can see that sure it depicts Nialls victory over what was deemed a GAA held position, (Why arent the other 6 popsitions victories depicted?) but we dont actually sit around in a big GAA meeting every year in the hatfield and decide who to put forward as the GAA candidate, cos if we did me and Niamh wudnt have ran for the same position and split the supposidly large GAA vote. I met her for the 1st time on the nominations day 2 weeks ago, 4 years into my time at Queens. All I said is that it is a poster which could be seen to people that the new VPCS is anti GAA. Which by his commemnts I doubt he is bt if people start printing this picture out or using it as a profile pic on facebook, tensions may rise and confidence drop within GAA members. He ran a good campaign and fair play 4 winning. And I hope he puts his full effort into the plans he has. On the dragon being slain, although me and Niamh both come from GAA backgrounds, neither of us had big GAA issues in our manifestos or plans. We were going for this position to help all clubs and societies. She has played for the QUB Soccer and netball teams in the past, and yes we both concentrate on GAA teams now, like all students who have full time courses and part time jobs, theres only so much you can do in your spare time. I doubt with Niall Boles duties in the DragonSlayers and his part time Job in the Union, that he wouldnt have the time to train 4 times a week for a GAA team. EVERYONES DIFFERENT. Thats what this position is all about, giving some1 the full time job to deal with all clubs. To Niall Bole, this isnt the place where you havta prove what you are going to do, you dont take up office til July, so dont be dragged ito discussions on what you plan to do. On the issue of funding and organisation, I dont think any of us fear that the GAA would have a reduction in funding as all the GAA teams grew in size last year so wouldnt be reasonable, and on the comment of bringing other clubs up to the same level as the GAA, well that will be down to each clubs members and not just the New VPCS. The GAA within QUB is the largest club and one of the best run because it it the most popoular club and 1 of the best supported. Simples</p>
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		<title>Comment on LETTER: Re Holylands by Wise up sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/06/letter-re-holylands/comment-page-1/#comment-1320</link>
		<dc:creator>Wise up sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lets play nice, I have 2 points. 1 obviously I didn&#039;t advise anyone to break up fights or get involved in violent situations - i thought that went without saying so thank you for saying it. 2 Where did you get the idea that I said mephedrone was acceptable? If you&#039;re going to make up other peoples arguments then you should argue with your self more often. And more drunk people are reasonable than not so :p 

The case is that the holylands has a massive concentration of students and statistically there will be some trouble makers. The degree to which they are anti social determines the course of action to be taken - I find complaining about things after they&#039;ve happened to be one of the most useless courses of action to take. If there is violent or criminal behavior near you then call the police - if it can be resolved safely by other methods then do that. Sorry I had to spell it out - I thought it was obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets play nice, I have 2 points. 1 obviously I didn&#8217;t advise anyone to break up fights or get involved in violent situations &#8211; i thought that went without saying so thank you for saying it. 2 Where did you get the idea that I said mephedrone was acceptable? If you&#8217;re going to make up other peoples arguments then you should argue with your self more often. And more drunk people are reasonable than not so :p </p>
<p>The case is that the holylands has a massive concentration of students and statistically there will be some trouble makers. The degree to which they are anti social determines the course of action to be taken &#8211; I find complaining about things after they&#8217;ve happened to be one of the most useless courses of action to take. If there is violent or criminal behavior near you then call the police &#8211; if it can be resolved safely by other methods then do that. Sorry I had to spell it out &#8211; I thought it was obvious.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a wonderful piece of satire. On the results night, Niall was really perceived as the underdog. No-one expected the position not to be filled by an officer without a GAA background, which can clearly be seen by both Niall&#039;s victory speech, and the look of Niamh McKernan&#039;s face as the result was announced (at least one picture of this is currently on Facebook). By winning the position of VPCS, Niall really was &quot;slaying a dragon&quot; that had been in that position for 14 years. This shouldn&#039;t be seen as an attack on the other VPCS candidates.

@Riggs - Niall&#039;s comments about not cutting funding for the GAA societies really aren&#039;t a problem. Yes, no-one here said that he was going to cut funding, but that doesn&#039;t mean that certain people weren&#039;t afraid of the possibility. With regards to your comments on it reflecting negatively on the GAA societies, I don&#039;t think it will. Most people here can see that it is satirical, even if you are unable to do so. If this image has a negative effect on your recruitment numbers (which I don&#039;t think it will), perhaps you should look at your societies&#039; advertising campaigns and how to make them more effective. 

Personally, I trust Niall to do his job professionally. When it comes to grant allocation time, I think that it will be extremely fair for all involved. When it comes to support, again things will be fair. The larger groups do have an advantage when it comes to changeover time, in that they are more likely to have members that know the role and can take over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a wonderful piece of satire. On the results night, Niall was really perceived as the underdog. No-one expected the position not to be filled by an officer without a GAA background, which can clearly be seen by both Niall&#8217;s victory speech, and the look of Niamh McKernan&#8217;s face as the result was announced (at least one picture of this is currently on Facebook). By winning the position of VPCS, Niall really was &#8220;slaying a dragon&#8221; that had been in that position for 14 years. This shouldn&#8217;t be seen as an attack on the other VPCS candidates.</p>
<p>@Riggs &#8211; Niall&#8217;s comments about not cutting funding for the GAA societies really aren&#8217;t a problem. Yes, no-one here said that he was going to cut funding, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that certain people weren&#8217;t afraid of the possibility. With regards to your comments on it reflecting negatively on the GAA societies, I don&#8217;t think it will. Most people here can see that it is satirical, even if you are unable to do so. If this image has a negative effect on your recruitment numbers (which I don&#8217;t think it will), perhaps you should look at your societies&#8217; advertising campaigns and how to make them more effective. </p>
<p>Personally, I trust Niall to do his job professionally. When it comes to grant allocation time, I think that it will be extremely fair for all involved. When it comes to support, again things will be fair. The larger groups do have an advantage when it comes to changeover time, in that they are more likely to have members that know the role and can take over.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by bin man</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator>bin man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s funny that people are annoyed. It&#039;s actually unbelievably surprising how conservative students are nowadays. Same goes for exec&#039;s reaction to The Hood. Totally seem to misunderstand satire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s funny that people are annoyed. It&#8217;s actually unbelievably surprising how conservative students are nowadays. Same goes for exec&#8217;s reaction to The Hood. Totally seem to misunderstand satire.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LETTER: Re Holylands by let's play nice</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/06/letter-re-holylands/comment-page-1/#comment-1315</link>
		<dc:creator>let's play nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah, i think you have a point in that your experience with the Holylands was obviously not the best - and while i don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily the norm, it&#039;s not completely unique either. Anti-social behaviour goes on nightly in the Holylands area - and it IS often worse than in other student areas. That&#039;s the truth of the matter. Some people are into that scene, and some people aren&#039;t - if you&#039;re in the later category, it&#039;s pretty much hell. I can totally understand that.

At the same time though, saying that everyone in the Holylands lives in a cramped dirty house is something of a sweeping statement, and just not the case for a lot of people! Also, when you say you can&#039;t believe people would pay so much money to attend university, only to live in this kind of area... perhaps it&#039;s because they&#039;re already up to their eyes in debt that the Holylands becomes more attractive. Generally housing there is a bit cheaper than in, say, Stranmillis. There&#039;s also the fact that it&#039;s hard to beat in terms of handiness to Queen&#039;s. So, all in all, i can definitely see why many students might consider the option of the Holylands - most of whom are not anti-social people. They are probably just as annoyed/intimidated by the stuff that goes on thanks to some of their neighbours as you are! 

&quot;Wise Up Sarah&quot;: - i think most people would agree that the problem of anti-social behaviour is not often one that can be easily rectified by politely asking your (completely steaming!) neighbours if they&#039;d kindly mind turning their music down! Residents (students and otherwise) have to put up with noise and fights and various other things that they&#039;d really rather not - that&#039;s the reality and there is no point denying it. Drunk people are often pretty inconsiderate and unreasonable, that&#039;s kinda the problem :p

Your point about mephedrone being still legal (and so somehow acceptable?)... i&#039;m not even going to get into that one!

BND: Telling Sarah to just not go to the Holylands doesn&#039;t really solve anything whatsoever though does it? She has a right to her opinion based on her own experiences, and in any case, the issues surrounding the Holylands have garnered major press interest, and such articles colour everyone&#039;s view of all of us as Queen&#039;s students - whether Holylands residents or not.


Ok - stopping now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, i think you have a point in that your experience with the Holylands was obviously not the best &#8211; and while i don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily the norm, it&#8217;s not completely unique either. Anti-social behaviour goes on nightly in the Holylands area &#8211; and it IS often worse than in other student areas. That&#8217;s the truth of the matter. Some people are into that scene, and some people aren&#8217;t &#8211; if you&#8217;re in the later category, it&#8217;s pretty much hell. I can totally understand that.</p>
<p>At the same time though, saying that everyone in the Holylands lives in a cramped dirty house is something of a sweeping statement, and just not the case for a lot of people! Also, when you say you can&#8217;t believe people would pay so much money to attend university, only to live in this kind of area&#8230; perhaps it&#8217;s because they&#8217;re already up to their eyes in debt that the Holylands becomes more attractive. Generally housing there is a bit cheaper than in, say, Stranmillis. There&#8217;s also the fact that it&#8217;s hard to beat in terms of handiness to Queen&#8217;s. So, all in all, i can definitely see why many students might consider the option of the Holylands &#8211; most of whom are not anti-social people. They are probably just as annoyed/intimidated by the stuff that goes on thanks to some of their neighbours as you are! </p>
<p>&#8220;Wise Up Sarah&#8221;: &#8211; i think most people would agree that the problem of anti-social behaviour is not often one that can be easily rectified by politely asking your (completely steaming!) neighbours if they&#8217;d kindly mind turning their music down! Residents (students and otherwise) have to put up with noise and fights and various other things that they&#8217;d really rather not &#8211; that&#8217;s the reality and there is no point denying it. Drunk people are often pretty inconsiderate and unreasonable, that&#8217;s kinda the problem :p</p>
<p>Your point about mephedrone being still legal (and so somehow acceptable?)&#8230; i&#8217;m not even going to get into that one!</p>
<p>BND: Telling Sarah to just not go to the Holylands doesn&#8217;t really solve anything whatsoever though does it? She has a right to her opinion based on her own experiences, and in any case, the issues surrounding the Holylands have garnered major press interest, and such articles colour everyone&#8217;s view of all of us as Queen&#8217;s students &#8211; whether Holylands residents or not.</p>
<p>Ok &#8211; stopping now!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by Smiling Student</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1314</link>
		<dc:creator>Smiling Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some taking this a bit thick for a cartoon...</description>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by Niall Bole</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1312</link>
		<dc:creator>Niall Bole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris McW - my main strategy for helping out every club and society is a massive overhaul of the training provided to the committee members. Whilst some groups have the advantage of former committee members remaining with the club/soc after they step down, a large number of new committees find themselves going in with little to no idea of what they should be doing.

Issues like how to apply for funding, both from QUB and outside sources, need to be tackled so that everyone is aware of the options open to them. Again with the finance, there needs to be a transparent system of accounting so a new treasurer doesn&#039;t actually need to be doing an accountancy degree in order to make sense of it, along with a simpler system for purchasing equipment that doesn&#039;t require many weeks of lead time. 

I want to make sure that training isn&#039;t a &quot;fire and forget&quot; system, I aim to have ongoing sessions as well as being in my office and available as much as possible to deal with individual problems as they occur. On top of this I&#039;m going to try and attend meetings of every club and society that I can make it to next year, just to try and get a feel for the sheer variety offered to every QUB student and see for myself if there are areas where the service can be improved.

I think that if a club or society has a passionate committee with proper training in how to run their organisation, and full support from their VPCS, David Bradley and any other relevant staff, then this can only be a good thing for the average student member.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris McW &#8211; my main strategy for helping out every club and society is a massive overhaul of the training provided to the committee members. Whilst some groups have the advantage of former committee members remaining with the club/soc after they step down, a large number of new committees find themselves going in with little to no idea of what they should be doing.</p>
<p>Issues like how to apply for funding, both from QUB and outside sources, need to be tackled so that everyone is aware of the options open to them. Again with the finance, there needs to be a transparent system of accounting so a new treasurer doesn&#8217;t actually need to be doing an accountancy degree in order to make sense of it, along with a simpler system for purchasing equipment that doesn&#8217;t require many weeks of lead time. </p>
<p>I want to make sure that training isn&#8217;t a &#8220;fire and forget&#8221; system, I aim to have ongoing sessions as well as being in my office and available as much as possible to deal with individual problems as they occur. On top of this I&#8217;m going to try and attend meetings of every club and society that I can make it to next year, just to try and get a feel for the sheer variety offered to every QUB student and see for myself if there are areas where the service can be improved.</p>
<p>I think that if a club or society has a passionate committee with proper training in how to run their organisation, and full support from their VPCS, David Bradley and any other relevant staff, then this can only be a good thing for the average student member.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by High Society</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1311</link>
		<dc:creator>High Society</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its worth noting that this cartoon is a work of satire and not an attack on any of the other canditates who ran for VPCS. 

For those who need background Niall Bole is a member of QUB Dragonslayers the Queens Anime and Gaming Society. He ran a very strong campaign for VPCS even though it was expected he would loose as the position had been held for 14 years by members of the GAA clubs at Queens. Despite this he narrowly won and this has come as a major shock to clubs and societies members, check out The Gowns report on the election results for more on this. 

As such this cartoon depicts Niall Bole as a &quot;Dragonslayer&quot; character standing over the body of a slain dragon, here meant to represent the perceived control the GAA had over the VPCS position which was thought by many to be insurmountable.  

Now if the Dragon has had the head of Niall McDermott or Niamh McKernan then that would be another matter as it would be a personal attack and I feel The Gown would be obliged to remove it. As it is I feel this cartoon accurately captures the elation many of Niall&#039;s supporters felt upon his victory, feeling that &quot;the Dragon has been slain.&quot;

It should also be noted that Niall Bole did not draw this cartoon nor aid in its publication, his only comment on it so far is to thank the artist Niall Mooney (lots of Niall&#039;s involved here) and act to dispel GAA fears that their funding will be cut of effected by his election as VPCS. 

Niall &quot;Riggs&quot; McDermott has the right idea above in that this cartoon has little to do with Niall&#039;s opinion of the GAA though it might be advisable for him not to take this cartoon so seriously.

@ Merlot 

I believe you would very much enjoy Dragonslayers as their website indicated that they have Dungeons and Dragons as well as video games which would think includes Tetris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its worth noting that this cartoon is a work of satire and not an attack on any of the other canditates who ran for VPCS. </p>
<p>For those who need background Niall Bole is a member of QUB Dragonslayers the Queens Anime and Gaming Society. He ran a very strong campaign for VPCS even though it was expected he would loose as the position had been held for 14 years by members of the GAA clubs at Queens. Despite this he narrowly won and this has come as a major shock to clubs and societies members, check out The Gowns report on the election results for more on this. </p>
<p>As such this cartoon depicts Niall Bole as a &#8220;Dragonslayer&#8221; character standing over the body of a slain dragon, here meant to represent the perceived control the GAA had over the VPCS position which was thought by many to be insurmountable.  </p>
<p>Now if the Dragon has had the head of Niall McDermott or Niamh McKernan then that would be another matter as it would be a personal attack and I feel The Gown would be obliged to remove it. As it is I feel this cartoon accurately captures the elation many of Niall&#8217;s supporters felt upon his victory, feeling that &#8220;the Dragon has been slain.&#8221;</p>
<p>It should also be noted that Niall Bole did not draw this cartoon nor aid in its publication, his only comment on it so far is to thank the artist Niall Mooney (lots of Niall&#8217;s involved here) and act to dispel GAA fears that their funding will be cut of effected by his election as VPCS. </p>
<p>Niall &#8220;Riggs&#8221; McDermott has the right idea above in that this cartoon has little to do with Niall&#8217;s opinion of the GAA though it might be advisable for him not to take this cartoon so seriously.</p>
<p>@ Merlot </p>
<p>I believe you would very much enjoy Dragonslayers as their website indicated that they have Dungeons and Dragons as well as video games which would think includes Tetris.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by Chris McW</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1310</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris McW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a bit of maturity is reuqired when discussing the issues of funding, merlot.
Many students have real concerns about whether the sports they have played all their lives and are their main social outlet are going to be supported and funded. This goes for all sports within QUB and not just the GAA.
As Niall does post on this site many students would greatly appreciate if he would give an outline of how he intends to &#039;bring everyone else up to the same excellent level&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a bit of maturity is reuqired when discussing the issues of funding, merlot.<br />
Many students have real concerns about whether the sports they have played all their lives and are their main social outlet are going to be supported and funded. This goes for all sports within QUB and not just the GAA.<br />
As Niall does post on this site many students would greatly appreciate if he would give an outline of how he intends to &#8216;bring everyone else up to the same excellent level&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by Merlot</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1308</link>
		<dc:creator>Merlot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niall will there be more money for dungeons and dragons and other neat gaming clubs??? I am really good at tetris????</description>
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		<title>Comment on LETTER: Re Holylands by BND</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/06/letter-re-holylands/comment-page-1/#comment-1306</link>
		<dc:creator>BND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the area annoys you so much Sarah then the simple advice would be not to attend house partys in the area. Perhaps this is an addition to the problem, young people who aren&#039;t from the area using it as a &#039;party zone&#039; when it suits them. From conversation with other students this seemed to be an additional factor last St.Patrick&#039;s day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the area annoys you so much Sarah then the simple advice would be not to attend house partys in the area. Perhaps this is an addition to the problem, young people who aren&#8217;t from the area using it as a &#8216;party zone&#8217; when it suits them. From conversation with other students this seemed to be an additional factor last St.Patrick&#8217;s day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New VP Niall Bole by BND</title>
		<link>http://www.thegown.org.uk/2010/03/08/niall-bole/comment-page-1/#comment-1305</link>
		<dc:creator>BND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if the gown could justify their reasons for printing such a jibe at two students that graciously accepted their defeat? Also, whether the new VPCS condones such an image of himself being projected?
It will be interesting to monitor the funding that all sporting clubs receive compared to minority societies in the coming year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if the gown could justify their reasons for printing such a jibe at two students that graciously accepted their defeat? Also, whether the new VPCS condones such an image of himself being projected?<br />
It will be interesting to monitor the funding that all sporting clubs receive compared to minority societies in the coming year.</p>
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